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« on: July 20, 2009, 10:05:30 AM »

Administrator Comment Moved this to "Other interesting builds", as this is a perfect example of an awesome project.

My son's electric Powerwheels Silverado finally stripped a gearbox.  I have been planning on converting it to gas ever since I saw the video of a Jeep PW with a 12hp Briggs running through the mud.  I'm building this using stuff I already have to keep costs down.  The frame is made from 2 old bed frames I had and the front section of a MTD frame.  So I guess that qualifies it to be a ATLM  question  Well anyway this build is going to take a while(only working on it a few hrs per week, for some reason my wife wants me to spend time with her too lol) and I'll update here as soon as I can.  Enough rambling, here is what I have so far:
Here is the transaxle, a Foote 3 speed

Power is a 5hp B&S motor that I rebuilt

Here is the frame so far, still working on the MTD section

Here is how the frame sits in the body at the rear.  I had to cut out a lot of plastic to get it to work

This is hopefully how it will look when completed.  I just mocked it up quick for the picture.



View with seat removed showing where the shifter will be.

I'm planning on running the exhaust behind the rear tire and putting a chrome tip on.  It will still go stock lawn mower speed so I'm keeping the rider's brakes.  I also want to wire up some headlights and taillights and make a trailer hitch.  Comments welcome.
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2009, 02:00:54 PM »

SWEET, this is gonna be awesome. You planning on keeping the body stock colors?

I've been wanting to do something like this for a while, except with a moped or large chainsaw engine. Using stock size tires and ride hight,  having it look as normal as possible so it would be more of a surprise when it takes off haha.
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2009, 06:25:16 PM »

I'm going to paint it with Krylon Fusion.  It looks much worse in person, the plastic is faded and chalky.  Probably going to paint it blue or red.
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2009, 12:26:26 PM »

Nice, That engine doesnt look like it would have a charging system right? if it does though, you could do headlights, tail lights, even a winch, that would be crazy.

This thread inspired me, i was walking home from a tubing trip yesterday and saw this little 3 wheeled kids toy in a dumpster, so i fished it out. I might extend the frame and stick one of my old saws in there for power....like i need another project.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2009, 05:53:20 AM »

Now that will be cool if it works out.  The 5hp doesn't have a charging system but I was going to put the PW battery above the transaxle and run lights.  Did some more work on it yesterday here is the progress:
Here is the section of MTD frame cleaned up and I cut off a lip at the rear of it

MTD frame tacked in place


Frame so far without the body

Motor set in place to check fit


Fill her up please

Front axle from a old 70's mower and MTD spindles, the MTD axle is too wide

Axle tacked in place and front wheel on

Starting on the steering setup, going to extend the MTD gear past the edge of the frame and had to trim the arm about 1" b/c it was hitting the frame

Prob won't do any more to it until next week. What do you think?
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2009, 01:28:10 PM »

Coming along very nice. One thing though, i would suggest that you get some better tie rod ends (heim joints). Stock mower tie rod ends are very weak, i have broke a few just mowing the lawn. Otherwise, it looks great, i love how you got the engine right under the hood, gives it more of a realistic feel.
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2009, 10:13:11 AM »

Did some more work to the steering yesterday and have figured out how to set it up.  Just need to buy some better joints.  Also got the motor mounts drilled.

to the left

to the right

Extending the MTD gear increased the leverage to the point where it feels like it has power steering.  The steering is quick almost like a go kart. I hope it's still this easy once the tires and motor are on.
here is most of the plastic I cut from the body
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2009, 01:48:47 PM »

In case your interested, i actually found the guy who made the jeep your talking about (i think its the one you mentioned at least). Anyways, he's part of another forum, and had never figured that out till a little while ago. I emailed him about the jeep and this is what he said
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thanks its just a mid engined ride on tractor with a push mower engine and a cart style differential axle. I had to lift it a bit and i made the body with conduit and wraped it with sheet metal. Its really kindof a cob job by my current building standards but it works really well. The reverse in the transmition blew up though so iv only got forward gears. And i have put smaller tires on it because i put the big ones back on my super bronc. I dont have much for build pics just these


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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2009, 04:55:24 PM »

I have seen a vid of that jeep on Youtube but it's not the one I was talking about.  Here is the one I mentioned http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1pJLWRNr60
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2009, 02:09:55 PM »

Wow. I saw the same video. Had the same idea. I went to a pawn shop and saw the same silverado power wheels thing. I just never followed through with the idea. Good luck.
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2009, 02:55:38 PM »

This is going to be awesome!!!
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2009, 09:55:25 AM »

I started working on the clutch setup yesterday.  Used the pivoting arm from the MTD mower and the clutch pedal is from the old 70s mower.  I bought the first parts- a 5in engine pulley, 7/8" lock collar, and a 3in idler for the clutch.  Total spent on this project so far- $32.
Pullies and arm in place

Pedal and linkage, still need to trim rod and cut some threads

Where the pedal sits with the body on

Still need to make the brake linkage and get a belt that fits.  This project may end up costing over $50 if I'm not careful lol
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Wow. I saw the same video. Had the same idea. I went to a pawn shop and saw the same silverado power wheels thing. I just never followed through with the idea. Good luck.
Now it's time to follow through!
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2009, 12:00:12 PM »

Looking good. I wish I had a clue of what to even to do with my project, haha. Oh and Chris wants everyone to use the atlma image uploader.
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2009, 04:45:46 PM »

Yeah I forgot all about the uploader.  I have another build thread on modifiedpowerwheels.com and couldn't remember if that site or this one had the uploader.  I will fix my posts shortly.
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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2009, 06:10:16 PM »

Looks great! i love that gas pedal and cant wait to see this thing finished!
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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2009, 10:31:07 PM »

Quick update on progress.  I have cut a old belt to size and will buy one tomorrow.  I also started the motor up for the first time and it runs very good.  Haven't had much time to work on it lately.  Hopefully I can finish it before my son outgrows it.
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2009, 06:53:29 AM »

I'd rock that thing even if I was waaay too big for it lol
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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2009, 06:41:13 AM »

LOL yeah I will be taking a extended road test once it's done.  Did a little more last night. 

Made the steering drag link out of some 3/8" rod. I'm going to use the mower steering joints for now until I can get some better ones.

Started on the exhaust.  It is a pipe for a Snapper that I cut and welded.  Total cost=$5. The pipe is going to run across the frame, down the right side, and exit in front of the RR tire with a chrome tip.

I have almost 2" of space between the pipe and plastic body.  A simple heat shield should protect the plastic well enough.
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« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2009, 09:52:13 AM »

Got some more done last night.

Bought another Snapper exhaust and cut and welded to fit.  This section will be mounted to the frame with a spring of some kind to keep it from cracking from engine vibration.  Still need some more pipe and a muffler.


The 5/8 inch axle on the MTD spindle was too small for my 8 inch front rims.  I cut off the axle and tacked on a 3/4 inch bolt to use as a axle.

Both spindles done.
Comments welcome!!
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« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2009, 10:00:22 AM »

Good progress.

What trouble are you having with the uploader?
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« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2009, 05:13:38 PM »

I was able to upload two of the new pics but when I went for the third a box popped up asking where to save a file.  It was a 1 inch by 4 inch box and after it popped up everything I clicked on brought up that same box.  It's like all the links on the page turned into files that I could save.  I had to get back to work so I couldn't mess with it anymore.  I'm using Vista and Google Chrome.  I haven't had any problems before so I don't think it's my PC.
Posted on: October 03, 2009, 07:42:10 AM
I figured out the uploader.  Apparently it isn't fully compatible with Google Chrome.  It works fine using IE.
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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2009, 06:47:52 PM »

Those are some kickass spindles.
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« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2009, 01:24:29 PM »

I figured out the uploader.  Apparently it isn't fully compatible with Google Chrome.  It works fine using IE.

That would do it.

The uploader is a good 3-4 years old now, way before Chrome's time.
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« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2009, 01:39:04 PM »

Yeah takes awhile to get used to it. I usually have to upload one picture at a time.
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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2009, 02:15:03 PM »

I don't see why you guys have so much trouble with it. I'll usually zip a whole folder of like 30+ pictures and upload the zip file
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« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2009, 05:43:39 PM »

I think my problem is, whenever I upload something I have to make it really small file size because it hangs up or something half ways through. I have this problem on youtube, google video and myspace. I've never uploaded anything bigger than say 5-6 Mb.
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« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2009, 06:26:49 AM »

Strange, I've uploaded a 200MB file to the uploader before; and I just finished uploading several 1-2GB video files to YouTube.

On another note, we need to stop whoring NikoBellic's thread
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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2009, 07:41:15 PM »

On another note, we need to stop whoring NikoBellic's thread
Nah don't worry about it. I like the attention
I had to break up my photos into 6mb zip files or the uploader wouldn't take them.  I had close to 25 pics and it took 4 zips to get them on.
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« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2009, 02:36:12 PM »

Got a little more done last night.  All that is left is to set up the brakes, make a support for the steering column, mount the front tires, and finish welding the frame. Hopefully I can ride this thing before christmas.

found some heim joints for the steering on a old go-kart frame

made some supports for the transaxle

clutch set-up

clutch applied

clutch released

made the tie rod from some 3/8" rod

my Chi Buddy
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« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2009, 05:50:37 PM »

Wow this place has really died down.  I'm putting my project on hold until after the holidays.  I wish everyone here a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
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« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2010, 05:24:15 AM »

Hey, did you ever finish this?  It looks cool.
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« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2010, 09:59:26 PM »

I haven't worked on it since winter started. It's cold in the garage and I don't get home until after dark. I'm going to get back on it when daylight savings time starts again.
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« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2010, 04:53:31 PM »

I haven't worked on it since winter started. It's cold in the garage and I don't get home until after dark. I'm going to get back on it when daylight savings time starts again.

I know how that is.
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« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2010, 11:46:22 AM »

Administrator Comment Moved this to "Other interesting builds", as this is a perfect example of an awesome project.
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« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2010, 08:46:53 PM »

Thanks, and it WILL get finished. Just got to find the time.
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« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2011, 07:40:12 PM »

After a LLLLOOOONNNGGGGG break from working on this I got the exhaust finished yesterday. I used a piece of 3/4" conduit and a few snapper pipes. More to come, hopefully before the year ends LOL.



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« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2011, 08:09:12 PM »

Cool!
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« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2011, 07:51:00 PM »

UPDATE!!! I added another muffler because no Chevy truck is complete without dual exhaust. I also fabbed a support for the steering shaft out of a 7/8" nut and some steering blocks from a old four-wheeler frame my neighbor gave me. I made mounts for the front axle and even dialed in a little caster to help with the steering. I can see the end...



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« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2011, 06:39:17 AM »

I like the dual exhaust! How low is it going to hang under the body?
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« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2011, 06:45:08 PM »

Its about 3-4 inches below the body.
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« Reply #40 on: September 08, 2011, 05:54:25 PM »

Just wanted to update I drove it about 5 feet then the key on the engine pulley sheared. The way the pulley is made I only have about 1/4" of key engaging the crankshaft so I need to come up with a different pulley. I have also thought about a belt clutch but those are $$$
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« Reply #41 on: September 08, 2011, 06:12:23 PM »

Do you have any pictures? I had the same thing happen on my Cub Cadet (it was a bad design)
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« Reply #42 on: September 09, 2011, 07:46:06 PM »

I will post pics tomorrow morning. I solved the pulley problem by buying 2 Weld-a-sprocket hubs and welding them together. Now I have 2 inches of key in the crank so that ain't goin nowhere:) I drove it around the yard and I works great!!!!! Top gear is prob 10 mph max. All I need now is brakes, a return spring on the pedal, kill switch, and finish welding the frame. Is it okay to post a link to this thread in a youtube video description? I'm planning on making a video of me driving and want to link here so people can see how I built it.
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« Reply #43 on: September 10, 2011, 07:11:45 AM »

Yeah let's see this thing!
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« Reply #44 on: September 10, 2011, 09:15:30 AM »

Here are the pics of the pullies, the one on the right is the weld-a-pulley with 2 hubs



And here is the beginnings of the return spring and brake linkage

I will make the video once I get the brakes working.
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« Reply #45 on: September 21, 2011, 07:17:56 PM »

Got a little more done and made a few more laps around the yard. I'm going to have to lock out 3rd gear when my son drives it's a little too fast.

extended the pedal for the brake linkage

welded the tab for the return srping

made a belt guide out of a training wheel and piece of bed frame


finished the brake linkage

this is what the throttle and kill switch will be mounted to

the contraption so far
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« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2011, 06:26:09 PM »

Here is a video of me driving in the yard. At 6 seconds you can see it pull a small wheelie when I shift to third! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh_qVlV8nqs
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« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2011, 07:54:29 PM »

Awesome progress. I have been excited to see this project since you first posted it.
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« Reply #48 on: April 18, 2012, 02:24:11 PM »

That's pretty cool, good progress!
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« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2012, 02:43:26 PM »

OK after a long break I have gotten back on this. I tore everything apart and finished welding the frame. Now I am doing final assembly/fabrication. Will post pics and videos when finished.
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« Reply #50 on: May 11, 2012, 03:06:40 PM »

Sweet!
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« Reply #51 on: May 27, 2012, 02:23:47 PM »

Made some patterns for the floor out of cardboard. Also had to finish cutting out the inside of the plastic body. Maybe I'll finish this thing pretty soon.

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« Reply #52 on: May 28, 2012, 06:57:07 PM »

I want to make an R/C version of this  bigsmile
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« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2012, 09:58:24 AM »

Haha! Thatd be different :P
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