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« on: September 16, 2008, 07:47:29 AM »



            Hey  Guys,  Thought  I'd drop a line to get a comment or two.    However - - -  I  hope your day goes as well as mine has started out.    It's really nice weather today.   Overcast  which means  I  can work hard without  the sun cooking me.   [ Be clearing trail today ]

      The National forest has large dirt  "humps"  across the trails on the  "downhill' area to re-direct water runoff during heavy rain.  This prevents erosion of the trails.

      As  I  go over them  - - - -  when coming up the mountain - - -  I  "goose" the engine  just a little to prevent stalling the  ATV.     My neighbor has said a few times that my front wheels come up off the ground about eight  inches or more when  I  reach the top of the  "hump".   

      How  BEST to handle this.?    I  don't want to stall out midway - - -  nor do I want to  ride the clutch   or  load up a few buckets of dirt and tie them to the front of the  ATV.   bigsmile        I was thinking of just setting my  idle  up but this  ATV does real well going up these mountains without  "breaking a sweat " now.        If  I  set the idle up  I  may have to  ride the brakes too much going down hill.   Right now - - -  I  go downhill mostly in first gear without using the brakes much except near vertical descents    bigsmile       I  really think that  "thing" would go up a straight wall if it didn't fall over backwards.   bigsmile       

      Your thoughts on this  ?     "  Faster idle  or is there some other way ?     The  "thumb  throttle " is a real  pain.      Another thought - - is it possible to install a  " Twist " throttle like used on motorcycles ?   Many years ago when  I  had a cycle  - - - I seem to remember that  I  had much better control over such terrain. ?           [Still trying to get"approved" so  I  can send pictures.]

      Have a good one,                  Norman
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2008, 11:03:10 PM »

The best way to prevent a roll over on those steap hills is to simply lean forward as far as possible.

The twist throttle is an easy change. I personally dont like a twist throttle on an ATV or andything else but a cycle, but it is all personal opinion.

-Phil
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2008, 05:27:07 AM »



            Hi  Phil,    Hope your day goes well for you.

      Thanks for your thoughts on that subject.    Phil - - --  this is the first time  I have seen a thumb  throttle.   After an hour or so climbing these mountains  - - - -  I  thought my thumb went numb   bigsmile    I  do not remember that happening  years ago with my  cycle.      What are your thoughts on installing a weaker throttle spring ?      Would there be any   unforeseen problems that your experience can point out to me ?   

      At times  I  take my wife on some of the much more moderate trails .    I made a rear seat for her with a fold up back rest for support  plus  sturdy non-slip foot rest.      I also ask her to lean forward  when needed.      She loves the rides.    bigsmile    Some of these mountain rides take over three hours without much back-trailing.        So far - - - we have not come across any wildlife  - - - - I  guess the engine noise keeps the critters away.    I  guess I  will have to make a silencer for the muffler.   I have more power than needed so that would not be a factor of loss power.       The engine is two hundred and fifty  cc.               Love it.                 thumbsup         

      Always enjoy your input,                   Norman   
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2008, 11:03:38 AM »

As for a weaker spring, i suggest not. Ive had throttles stick on me and for a moment or two you suddenly forget about the kill switch.

If you believe a twist throttle will ease your riding, it is very to install one.

Glad to hear your wife enjoys the rides as well.

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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2008, 07:02:02 AM »



            Hi again Phil,

      I have been clearing trail and I work alone  - - - - no wife near.           I  leave her at home  during those times.      Much too dangerous.     I  carry all  my tools on the ATV  such as mattock - - ax - - cross-cut saw and I wear the machete.          No place for someone to step into the danger zone  of swinging tools or  small  falling  trees.           As  I  advance - - - - -  I  bring up the  ATV.        That gives me more practice with the thumb throttle.        I guess all  I  needed was more practice  with short start and stop movements.         I   am even starting to walk the  ATV  over those erosion humps at  a  crawl now.              I  guess that was all  I needed - - - - more time getting use to this thing.         

      I  do not get to see many critters while working tho.         That hawk must find me interesting - - - - it was again watching me  and letting me know it by screaming at me.            At times it will lower the sound down  to   several fast chirps.  - - - almost like it wants to talk.      It sorta follows me for about a half mile .      I guess it is not all that happy with me in his territory

       The  ATV - - - it sure is a big help carrying tools and drinking water - - - - - and soon my fly rod and fishing gear to the lake.     bigsmile 

       Have a good one    - - - Norman
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2008, 09:15:00 AM »

Not sure if it would apply for an ATV, but I encounter those same humps on some trials I drive my truck on. I've noticed that the best way to approach them is at an angle, so both your front tires hit the bump at the same time. Sometimes it's not feasible (like on an uphill run) to do this, and if your front tires coming off the ground is an issue you're best taking it straight on and getting one tire over it before the other.
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Just because you move up in a class doesn't mean that you'll "loose" the "race", it just means that you're building a better, more capable machine.
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