another brakes question

[toxic_j_2007]

I'm not trying to question the rules here, but why wouldn't the factory brakes work on, for instance an MST205 transaxle? there isn't a chain issue (it's all gear drive inside), and they stop pretty good, even wet (field tested my mower and can lock-up the back wheels at full speed{wasn't trying to }) just asking.

[ryf]

because the factory brakes are designed for use at 6mph+/-.  I'm sure lots of people use them on yard toys and its OK. but if your running hot into a turn, the guy in front of you wants your brakes to work whether you blow a pinion, spider, or any other gear or not, and for his sake, not yours, axle brakes only.

I've blown two mst204-503 ring gears screwing around, they shot teeth through the case and destroyed the surrounding gears, one failed in a complete lockup, caused by a stray tooth wedging somewhere, the other failed and free spooled, if I had been using stock brakes, that could have ended badly.

the rules are there for a reason, because people won't do whats best for them unless you make them, myself included. common sense says there are less things to fail with an axle brake, it is also easier to check for wear and proper adjustment/operation/damage. cost over safety is not a defendable position.

[money89tractors]

Very nice explanation RYF.

-Phil

[toxic_j_2007]

that's kinda what I thought. like I said in the beginning, not trying to question the rules, just asking questions. Thanks for the explanation.

[Chris]

Ryf did a good job explaining it. I use to think that stock brakes were adequate enough for the speeds I was going off-road, and then I killed the transaxle on the Wizard. A few days later the chain snapped on my toro as I was climbing up a hill, and rolled backwards. No brakes since I was using the stockers. That DID end badly.

[mtd]

Been there and done that on a 4 wheeler Chris.And your right when you are climing a hill and you got no brakes it isnt good.My clutch on my 4 wheeler was sliiping real bad so it started rolling backwards and ended up roling down the hill with me and splat on top of me at the bottom.Needless to say i now have brakes on my 4 wheeler and on axle brakes on my tractor.