automotive brake setups

[tntchitwood]

There have been some questions flying around about automotive brake setups. I have a few ideas, like using a one line,nonpower assisted master cylinder off of a 60 something auto. They are very small and very cheap, brandnew. Since they supply enough fluid for four wheel cylinders they will surely supply plenty of fluid and pressure for one small disk caliper.?  Is anybody using an automotive type system? How about some pictures. I think it will be beneficial to all of us to see this. Quit holding out on us all. Lets start sharing some ideas people. I want to see this sport grow.      Tom (climbing down off his soapbox)                       

[tractorman]

Well I know for a fact that if you have a master cylinder or clutch cylinder from a 1989 nissan hardbody will work for any type of go-kart caliper. Same thing with wilword clutch cylinder you can get them cheap off ebay.

[STEELMAN]

i think junk atv's and motorcycles would be a better match than cars bikes are real common at your average boneyard

[tractorman]

Yeah I know I went to the junkyard today and found 3 honda bike motors complete and running at $40 a peice and Any part of the bikes for $10 a peice. Next year or maybe this year will be coming a New atlma build for me.

By the way I understand it you need a brake rotor that uses a 4 bolt pattern and a 4x4 bolt pattern hub and then you need to fab up a mount for the caliper

[STEELMAN]

the mount should be easy but as far as the disc i wouldn't limit yourself should be many options i just have not looked yet but i will let you know when i find something out

[tractorman]

when I was at the junk yard I saw a couple of cars with the 4x4 bolt pattern hub and too the parts off and the people held them for me until I got some money. But also I dont know if a master cylinder that has one output for the clutch will work.

[tntchitwood]

Back in the day,(my day), young fella (LOL) cars had a single line master cylinder that was split 4 ways into 4 wheel cylinders( yes drum brakes on all 4 corners). Not very effective. Not very safe for auto. If one line blew, you lost everything. Todays mastercylinders have a seperate reservior for front and back. That way you lose one you still have the other. I had a chevette when I was in the military I drove for two years with only an emergency brake. These single line mastercylinders would be perfect for an atlm. I am going to check, but I think you can get one brand new at your local parts house for less than $20.00 They mount with a simple two bolt bracket, are about the size of a can of coke, and being made to push 4 wheel cylinders, they will definately feed one escort caliper.      Tom
Posted on: August 09, 2007, 07:13:46 PMhttp://www.partsamerica.com/ProductList.aspx?PartType=230&PTSet=A&SearchFor=Master+Cylinder

I hope this link works. It is a single line master cylinder from Advanced auto. Part number 1040000.   $19.88 This is the first one I came across while looking. Should be very easy to mount.

[Chris]

Yeah that's a dead link, but that's a very good idea with the master cyl, that'll be definitely more than enough for what we'd use them for.

[tractorman]

try this- http://www.partsamerica.com/productdetail.aspx?MfrCode=TRQ&MfrPartNumber=CM39605&PartType=234&PTSet=A

cheaper- http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=RAY&MfrPartNumber=2839605&PartType=234&PTSet=A

[money89tractors]

Again, dead links.

-Phil

[tractorman]

All right go to http://www.partsamerica.com/default.aspx and typr in the search box master cylinder. Then there are 2 choices you want the clutch cylinder. When it asks vehicle put in a 1989 nissan d21 pickup

[tntchitwood]

          This is the advance auto parts mastercylinder, part #1040000.  It is listed for a 1965 Chevy Chevelle. $19.88

[ADP001]

another source may be from a vw based sand rail brake system.
here is an example:http://www.mooreparts.com/AC611011.html

[ryf]

I'm using a escort master cylinder and aspire front disc brake, and I can definitely lock em up.

if you use a mastercylinder off a power assist, make sure you mount the pushrod very low on the pedal, they have a bigger bore (in general) so they do not move far to move alot of fluid. and they are HARD, so leverage is good.

I like the one for the chevelle, I'm redoing my front end, and it may work out nice.

[tntchitwood]

ADP001,
       That is a good looking master cylinder, but I think it requires a remote resevior and a line with fittings. That's more $$ and I am a cheap SOB.
                                                                    Tom