1968 modfied wheel horse

[tractorman]

Okay I finallly got some time to start building my mowchine. Its a 1968 Wheel Horse. This mowchine is in some ruff shape as you can problably tell by the pictures. the first picture just shows the frame in a million peices. Now the second picture is of the frame of what I got together. The previous owner welded the motor mount holes on the right side shut so I have to re-drill those. Now your thinking wow what is it?
Well the transmission had a little problem. It leaked the oil and it had water in it. So today I ordered a new gasket and shifter boot and also a new seal for the axel. O and also the one axle snaped ring poped so still got to replace it. Tonight I will put the fenders on and the hood. O also the foot boards. The steering gear had 3 teeth missing so thank god for EBAY got me a new steering gear in the mail right now. So mower news later. The good thing about this build is its free had this tractor sitting around along with some cleated tires.

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[Chris]

Wow you really got that thing stripped down, huh?

[tractorman]

Yeah the previous owner did that I got this mower in parts a long time ago and its just been sitting there. Next comes paint and a few missolanious stuff and then to fine the POWER PLANT!! 

[money89tractors]

The pulley on that transaxle is huge! Ive seen em that big on craftsman mowers and stuff like that, but never on the older Wheel Horses, and ive owned 3. Even when i tractor pulled Wheel Horses, we never had a pulley that big on them.

Youll probably want to find yourself some taller tires for the front for ground clearance. The ones you have arent as tall as the stock ones would be.

I suggest you find a Kohler, which judging by your aviator, you probably know how strong they are.

-Phil

[MTDrider1160]

Looks like you got your work cut out for ya!

[tractorman]

O yeah love the Kohlers! Always on ebay looking for them. Yeah tonight I got the tractor painted black and silver. It got so late and dark couldnt get pics but will tomorrow. Start to work on the tranny tomorrow to parts are on order. Got the steering mounted and the dash and seat and hood done too. Mount the engine and the running boards and I will be done.

[tractorman]

Okay some progress. today I got one of the foot pegs on and the dash and consol peice one. The clutch/ brake pedal and steering linkages on. Also where the old amp guage is I replaced it with a oil presure gage. Also the cleated tires are what I am using.

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[money89tractors]

Those rear tires are some meats!! what are those? 24x24x12? ive had one wheel horse that we put them on, there was a little bit of fitting with the fenders to make them work, but the tire was very stable. Your gunna have to find some taller front tires though, youll put those little one around everywhere.

-Phil

[tractorman]

they are 26x12x12. they are HUGE!! they will just rip into the ground.

[money89tractors]

Thats the size i ment.

-Phil

[tractorman]

Sorry guys I have not had any time to do anything, I tractor pull with the same model wheel horse just painted really nice like show quality and my 2 grand motor when BOOM! When a valve head broke loose and the power range of 55 hp and now It is back in the shop and having to do some work. Its gonna cost me about $700 in parts and machine work to fix this. Hope to have some work here done soon. I have recently got a 8 hp kohler for the mower and ground my own cam so i am ready to run with it when its gets together.
Posted on: July 23, 2007, 08:41:00 AMO also guys if you want to grind your own cam its quite easy. It doesnt even require a cam grinder but it does require ALOT of time and patience. Check out this link for diffrent cam grind specs dont bother looking at the duration thats all up to you on that what you want to put on it. for the welding on the cam if you dont have a tig welder then go to your local home depot and look in the weding section for brazing rod. There will be twon choices get the nickel alloy. The brass is to hard to sand and grind and it chews up lifters. and all you have to do with the nickel alloy is take a sytelen torch (sp?) and melt it on there and then grind it.

MASTER GRIND LIST-  http://www.lakotaracing.com/Cams_all.htm

CAM PIC-  http://www.heymow.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4348.0;attach=1775;image

[money89tractors]

Thats a shame to hear the puller went BooM...its a crazy sound when those high RPM high HP engine do that, ive heard a few do it.

Tell me, how do you grind your cams? what do you use to add material to the cam?

-Phil

[tractorman]

Nickel alloy. You can get it from the home depot. Take a sytelen torch (SP?) And melt it on there and the you can take a electric like belt sander the really skinny kind and form it. I dont do this for the pulling tractor I purchase cams from lakota racing. when you grind your own make sure you take your time no need to rush. Or if you dont feel safe doing it get a old engine cam and practice. Practice makes perfect. Always when your done mik it. take a dial indicator and check. Make sure you build a stand to hold the cam flt and even or you wil not get the right muesurments.

[money89tractors]

can you see the different on the cam lobes between the factory lobe and the areas that you have added the alloy to?

p.s. i think its acetylene...

-Phil

[tractorman]

when done right yes you can see a larger higher lobe. Hp gain wise maybe a few hp like 3 or 4. but that 3 or 4 added a good amount of tourqe to the motor.
Posted on: July 23, 2007, 09:30:19 AMNow Phil, To give a little more detail and more pics this is some what you want a briggs cam to look like.



A good fair cam for atlma.



A really good cam for high rpm cams and tourqe monsters.



Stock

[money89tractors]

Gotcha, just wanted to know if you could see a difference in the added material vs the stock stuff, so you know your not gettin back to the stock lobes.

-Phil

[tractorman]

Gotcha, just wanted to know if you could see a difference in the added material vs the stock stuff, so you know your not gettin back to the stock lobes.

-Phil

If you meen not getting back to the stock lobes in taking the material off the cam. I hope you have a week to give up. It takes tha long tormove the material off the cam. Now yes you can see when you mel the stuff on there and form it that you dont have stock lobes.
Posted on: July 24, 2007, 07:23:21 AMOK. Just wanted to show you guys some progress on the Horse.



Bondo! On both peices to get some of the bad dings and dents out.

[tractorman]

  Well, Sad news the wheel horse will no longer be built do to some issues on the pulling tractor again! Transmission problems and well body panels needed. BUT....................  I still have a build!

Started back up on the craftsmen...... Pics below......... The tranny has been race prepped and the axle unstuck all I need now are a set of cleated tires and I am good to go. Any one know where I can get a set of cleated tires for a 3/4 axle? Or should I use my existing rim and buy tires for that?

[money89tractors]

Well, since your not building the Wheel Horse anymore, Start this Craftsman build in a new thread.

-Phil

[tractorman]

Will do! Can you delete this one then?

[MTDrider1160]

I'd get the 3/4'' hubs acme sells, i think there 4X4 and a friend of mine on heymow is selling 4X4 8'' rims for $15 a pair.  That would be your best bet.

[tractorman]

So you dont think I should use my stock keyed wheels? And put cleats on them?

[MTDrider1160]

Well 4X4 is a very common pattern and it would allow you to change to different setups easily.  You could just use your stock rims.

[Chris]

Yeah, you could just use your stock rims, that's what I did on the Toro... But it will limit you further on down the line, I'd go for the 4x4 rims - if I ever get the time to start working on my mower again that's what I currently have on it.

[tractorman]

YUP! picked up some rims today!

[money89tractors]

Will do! Can you delete this one then?

I dont think we will delete this thread, however we can lock it from further posts.

-Phil

[tractorman]

That would be great getting some last minute needed parts and then I will start my other.

Thanks